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MessageSujet: Building A Cube   Mar 11 Aoû à 3:06

I'm building a cube, for drafting when we get sick of M10 and ACR or whatever. I prefer trading cards for whatever I ask for, but I'm not opposed to buying if it's at a reduced price or borrowing your cards for the purposes of the group. Donations of commons and uncommons is greatly appreciated.
I'll start with lands as I have the best idea of what's needed there. Feel free to make suggestions for cards to put in. I'd like to give combo a chance so the pool should be kept to <500 cards and have plenty of combo enablers.

Go to the latest posts to see the latest want lists.


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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 11 Aoû à 9:20

I have:

Yavimaya cost
Karpulsan forest
all vivid
skullclamp i think

see you friday
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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 11 Aoû à 11:33

I prolly got all. I give you all that I find

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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Lun 17 Aoû à 19:06

New Cube list printed. Check the bottom.


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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Lun 17 Aoû à 19:39

Quick suggestions:

I didn't see much point in the artifact lands, but as there are some affinity/modular cards, why not (not sure Orni is worth it too)..

crystal vein can get the axe

If you've chromatic star, maybe sphere could be worth it too. I found we might lack some fixing. maybe even something like fellwar stone.

I would remove Illusion Donate maybe, other combos such as prot hulk (maybe add a flash Smile ) reveilalrk etc, or channel/fireball are ok, because it's good cards in their own. But donate...

Removing some soldier stuff, like the banneret is probably fine, and if you replace by other quality white cards, by exemple decree of justice and exalted angel. Eternal Dragon could be worth it too, especially if at some point you add the ravnica block duals.

You could add the new terror, from M10. I don't remember seeing nekrataal, it would fit too. Just be careful not to make black too strong.

You should add Pulse, and if you get one vindicate, I found more artifact or enchentment removal was needed. Maybe even desert twister, and the new green 2/2, that does creeping mold.

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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Lun 17 Aoû à 20:44

So I've already performed some changes to the list, as well as come up with something of a "want list"

+ Force of Will
+ Thirst for Knowledge
- Blue Elemental Blast
- Red Elemental Blast
+ Tombstalker

First things first, something for the combo players: I've added a "Joker" card, quite literally with "The Joker" from Marvel's Vs. card game. Here's what it does: it allows the drafter to replace it with a single card from outside the pool of drafted cards during deck construction. In a sense, it is a replacement for the Wishes, most of which have been major Constructed players, without the clunkiness of having to look through the Cube for a particular card every time a Wish is cast.

If Joker turns out to be waaay too powerful (I'm 95% fine with 1st pick always) , we'll replace him with 4 of the judgement wishes (all but death) and you pick something outside the drafted pool that the card says you can search for, but only once and only during deck construction.

Crystal Vein is pretty much a placeholder for either City of Traitors or ideally Mishra's Workshop (ha ha).

Affinity could be removed totally, but I was hoping to sway away from all the decks just being midrange or control and throwing five drops at each other. Maybe adding some esper stuff from Alara block could help (Esper Stormblade seems a worthy addition, but I'm unsure what after that). Other than that, arcbound stinger and Quumulox from Mirrodin could be good. Adding borderposts could help affinity a bit.

Maybe removing Cycling subtheme would open some space for all that.

I've already added Disenchant and Quasali Pridemage, hopefully the addition of Maelstrom Pulse and Vindicate will give us enough enchantment removal but not too much that disenchant/naturalize are always 15th picks.

Anyone who's gotten this far should know that goblins is a solid strategy but one that might go away. Currently there's 21 goblin cards in the pool, including all 4 goblin lords. Somebody should try them out if they seem open. Nobody got a chance to play them in the last draft as I was drafting a sick U/W control deck and nobody else knew that goblins ran deep.

Most of the crazy two card combos are around, so if you see one try to get the other. Here I'll say to Remy: I'm fine with Donate always going 15th pick as Illusions combos with a few other cards as well as the rest of blue is ridiculously strong so some filler isn't minded terribly.


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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Lun 17 Aoû à 20:46

Want List in it's current incarnation:

Commons/Recent Uncommons:
Channel the Suns
Desperate Ritual
Mana Seism
Knight of the Holy Nimbus
Whipcorder
Cavern Harpy
Simic Signet
Radkos Signet
Izzet Signet
Gruul Signet
Spore Burst
Selesnaya Signet
Kabuto Moth
Samurai of the Pale Curtain
Nezumi Graverobber
Throat Slitter
Snuff Out
Goblin Sparksmith

Rare and/or Old Cards:
Wheel of Fortune
Battlefield Forge
Shivan Reef
Ravages of War
Master of Etherium
Reveillark
Black Vise
Phyrexian Processor
Decree of Justice
Sarcomancy
Hatred
Phyrexian Negator
Earthcraft
Squirrel's Nest
Flash
Maelstrom Pulse
Vindicate
Living Death
City of Traitors
Raven Familiar
Nantuko Shade


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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 18 Aoû à 10:21

Lands

*Shard Lands*

Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Savage Lands
Seaside Citadel
Crumbling Necropolis

*Vivid Lands*

Vivid Crag
Vivid Creek
Vivid Grove
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow

*Black*

Cabal Coffers
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

*Blue*

Academy Ruins
Cephalid Coliseum

*Green*

Treetop Village

*Red*

Goblin Burrows
Barbarian Ring

*Prison*

Strip Mine
Wasteland
Rishadan Port

*Accel*

Ancient Tomb
Crystal Vein*

*5c Fixing*

City of Brass
Terramorphic Expanse
Grand Coliseum
Forbidden Orchard
Gemstone Mine

*Manlands/Combat Stuff*

Urza's Factory
Mishra's Factory
Blinkmoth Nexus
Nantuko Monastery

*Painlands*

Llanowar Wastes
Adarkar Wastes
Brushland
Karpulsan Forest
Sulfurous Springs
Yavimaya Coast
Caves of Kolios
Underground River

*Artifact Lands*

Tree of Tales
Seat of the Synod
Vault of Whispers
Ancient Den
Darksteel Citadel
Great Furnace

*Cycling Lands*

Forgotten Cave
Lonely Sandbar
Secluded Steppe
Tranquil Thicket
Barren Moor

Artifacts

*Creatures*

Ornithopter
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Ravager
Lurebound Scarecrow
Frogmite
Juggernaut
Razormane Masticore
Triskelion
Myr Enforcer
Duplicant
Platinum Angel
Sundering Titan

*Noncreature Artifacts*

Lotus Petal
Engineered Explosives
Chrome Mox
Lotus Bloom
Zuran Orb
Mana Crypt

Springleaf Drum
Mana Vault
The Rack
Chromatic Star
AEther Vial
Skullclamp
Sensei's Divining Top
Chromatic Star
Sol Ring

Isochron Scepter
Cranial Plating
Azorius Signet
Boros Signet
Dimir Signet
Golgari Signet
Orzhov Signet
Umezawa's Jitte
Prismatic Lens
Mind Stone

Sword of Fire and Ice
Loxodon Warhammer
Crucible of Worlds

Nevinyrral's Disk
Mindslaver
Obelisk of Alara
Memory Jar


**Gold**

*G/W*

Qasali Pridemage
Armadillo Cloak
Loxodon Hierarch
Harmonic Sliver

*U/W*

Teferi's Moat
Plumeveil

*B/R*

Terminate
Murderous Redcap (g)
Bituminous Blast

*W/R*

Goblin Legionnaire (g)(s)
Lightning Helix
Ajani Vengeant

*G/R*

Bloodbraid Elf (e)
Manamorphose
Hull Breach
Burning-Tree Shaman

*W/B*

Ghost Council of Orzhova
Tidehollow Sculler
Pillory of the Sleepless
Gerrard's Verdict

*U/R*

Fire//Ice
Invoke the Firemind

*G/B*

Putrefy
Pernicious Deed
Grave-Shell Scarab

*U/B*

Psychatog
Oona, Queen of the Fae


*U/G*

Lorescale Coatl
Mystic Snake
Simic Sky Swallower
Snakeform

White

*Creatures*

Icatian Javelineers (s)
Mother of Runes
Savannah Lions
Goldmeadow Harrier (s)
Akraskan Squire (s)
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Ramosian Sergeant (r)
Elite Vanguard (s)


White Knight
Jotun Grunt (s)
Knight of Meadowgrain
Knight of the White Orchid
Soltari Priest
True Believer
Ballyrush Banneret* (s)
Kami of Ancient Law
Kataki, War's Wage
Ramosian Lieutenant (should be Amrou Scout) (r)

Aven Riftwatcher (r) (s)
Mirror Entity (r) (s) (g)
Order of the Sacred Torch
Preeminent Captain (s)
Lin-Sivvi, Defiant Hero (r)
Defiant Vanguard (r)
Aven Mindcensor

Radiant's Dragoons (s)
Magus of the Moat

Battlegrace Angel
Cloudgoat Ranger (makes s)
Serra Angel

Akroma, Angel of Wrath

*Instant*

Condemn
Enlightened Tutor
Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
Mana Tithe
Disenchant
Momentary Blink*
Wing Shards

*Sorceries*

Balance
Wrath of God
Armageddon
Spectral Procession

*Enchantments*

Land Tax
Honor the Pure
Pacifism
Glorious Anthem
Obvlivion Ring
Story Circle
Astral Slide
Parallax Wave

Blue

*Creatures*

Waterfront Bouncer
Merfolk Looter
Aquamoeba

Man-o-War
Serendib Efreet
Trinket Mage
Dominating Licid
Kira, Great Glass Spinner

Aeon Chronicler
Meloku the Coulded Mirror
Body Double
Morphling
Mulldrifter

Keiga, the Tide Star
Mahamoti Djinn

*Instants*

Brainstorm
Chain of Vapor

Counterspell
Mana Leak
Snap
Remand
Brain Freeze

Capsize
Frantic Search
Circular Logic
Hinder
Thirst for Knowledge
Mana Short
Forbid

Cryptic Command
Fact or Fiction
Gifts Ungiven

Gush
Force of Will
Evacuation

Opportunity

*Sorceries*

Ponder
Sleight of Hand
Merchant Scroll
Donate
Tinker
Windfall
Deep Analysis
Thoughtcast
Mind's Desire

*Enchantments*

Threads of Disloyalty
Illusions of Grandeur



Black

*Creatures*

Putrid Imp
Carnophage
Carrion Feeder
Disciple of the Vault
Order of the Ebon Hand
Dauthi Horror
Dauthi Slayer (s)
Dark Confidant
Skittering Skirge

Hypnotic Specter
Bone Shredder
Stromgald Cabal

Shriekmaw
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
Sengir Nosferatu
Puppeteer Clique
Thrashing Wumpus

Tombstalker

*Instants*

Slaughter Pact
Dark Ritual
Demonic Consultation
Vampiric Tutor
Diabolic Edict
Terror
Smother
Cabal Ritual
Massacre
Makeshift Mannequin
Ad Nauseum

*Sorceries*

Reanimate
Duress
Raven's Crime
Deathmark
Demonic Tutor
Hymn to Tourach
Sign in Blood
Night's Whisper
Exhume
Yawgmoth's Will
Infernal Contract
Tendrils of Agony
Dread Return
Patriarch's Bidding
Corrupt
Sins of the Past

*Enchantments*

Animate Dead
Necropotence
Recurring Nightmare
Night of Souls' Betrayal
Yawgmoth's Bargain

Red

*Creatures*

Mogg Fanatic (g)
Kird Ape
Jackal Pup
Goblin Lackey (g)
Magus of the Scroll

Stingscourger (g)
Mogg War Marshall (g)
Goblin Piledriver (g)
Atog
Ashling the Pilgrim

Squee, Goblin Nabob (g)
Goblin Sharpshooter (g)
Simian Spirit Guide
Goblin Chieftain (g)
Goblin Matron (g)
Goblin King (g)
Goblin Warchief (g)
Ghitu Slinger

Avalanche Riders
Flametongue Kavu
Anger
Goblin Ringleader (g)

Siege-Gang Commander (g)
Gathan Raiders
Arc-Slogger

Shivan Dragon
Greater Gargadon

*Instants*

Lightning Bolt
Ancient Grudge
Magma Jet
Incinerate
Sudden Shock
Fiery Temper
Seething Song
Violent Eruption
Flame Javelin
Fireblast

*Sorceries*

Lava Dart
Rite of Flame
Pyroclasm
Empty the Warrens
Apocalypse
Fireball
Starstorm

*Enchantments*

Seal of Fire
Lightining Rift
Sulfuric Vortex
Pandemonium

Green

Llanowar Elves (e)
Basking Rootwalla
Birds of Paradise
Fyndorn Elves (e)
Wild Nacatl
Spore Frog

Vinelasher Kudzu
Werebear
Wild Mongrel
River Boa
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Wall of Blossoms
Quirion Dryad
Kavu Titan
Tarmogoyf
Wall of Roots

Spike Feeder
Yavimaya Elder (e)
Eternal Witness
Imperious Perfect (e)
Great Sable Stag

Blastoderm
Phantom Centaur
Spike Weaver
Ravenous Baloth
Brooding Saurian

Genesis
Deranged Hermit (e)
Arrogant Worm
Kodama of the North Tree

Cloudthresher
Silvos, Rogue Elemental
Protean Hulk

Krosan Tusker
Verdant Force

*Instants*

Naturalize
Moment's Peace

*Sorceries*

Life from the Loam
Channel
Call of the Herd
Search for Tomorrow
Natural Order
Overrun
Tooth and Nail

*Enchantments*

Rancor
Fastbond
Survival of the Fittest
Oath of Druids
Aluren
Saproling Burst


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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 18 Aoû à 11:22

i have a lot of cards in your list. I take it friday
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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Dim 18 Avr à 13:59

Okay Affinity is being removed. Check this thread for an idea of what the cube contains. Once I get the cube and some free time I'll update the cube and update the list.

How many proxy cards are people comfortable with? We have 11 proxy cards now, and I think 20 would be the extreme.

So with that I'm taking out:
6 Artifact Lands
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Ravager
Disciple of the Vault
Thoughtcast
Cranial Plating
Frogmite
Myr Enforcer
Exalted Angel
Magus of the Moat ( last two making room for better white creatures)

And adding:
Ravages of War (proxy)
Grim Tutor (proxy)
Time Vault (proxy)
Voltaic Key
Baneslayer Angel (proxy)
Bazaar of Baghdad (proxy)
Mishra's Workshop (proxy)
Entomb (proxy)
Reveillark
Phyrexian Processor
Platinum Angel
Sinkhole(proxy)
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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Dim 18 Avr à 20:42

I'll check a bit in my card and if you agree I can lend 1 fetch of each ( new one) and we might add some "new" cards, like the baloth 6/6 trample which make 4/4....

See ya friday

I'll come around 10pm if my work schedule remains the same, and I'm not convinced that you'll have enough eldrazi packs ( I'll give mine to Ismaïl or somebody who's sure to come early)
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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 20 Avr à 11:23

vous avez gagné combien de packs à annecy?
sinon gb tu arrives pas à passer le cube à quelqu'un qui vien à l'heure comme sa on peut directe en faire un
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MessageSujet: Re: Building A Cube   Mar 20 Avr à 13:50

on a fait trop de la merde Laughing genre on a gagné maxi 2 packs eldrazi par personne tellement c'est de la caille ce format Shocked Shocked
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