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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Building A Cube Mar 11 Aoû à 3:06 | |
| I'm building a cube, for drafting when we get sick of M10 and ACR or whatever. I prefer trading cards for whatever I ask for, but I'm not opposed to buying if it's at a reduced price or borrowing your cards for the purposes of the group. Donations of commons and uncommons is greatly appreciated. I'll start with lands as I have the best idea of what's needed there. Feel free to make suggestions for cards to put in. I'd like to give combo a chance so the pool should be kept to <500 cards and have plenty of combo enablers.
Go to the latest posts to see the latest want lists.
Dernière édition par Ryan le Mar 18 Aoû à 0:41, édité 1 fois | |
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gobo Puissant mage
Nombre de messages : 690 Age : 32 Localisation : Si vous voulez voir mes vidéos de basse c'est ici https://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oabdg&view=videos Date d'inscription : 15/01/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Mar 11 Aoû à 9:20 | |
| I have:
Yavimaya cost Karpulsan forest all vivid skullclamp i think
see you friday | |
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Rémy Dieu
Nombre de messages : 1013 Localisation : Là où l'alcool coule à flot et les femmes sont belles Date d'inscription : 15/08/2005
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Mar 11 Aoû à 11:33 | |
| I prolly got all. I give you all that I find | |
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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Lun 17 Aoû à 19:06 | |
| New Cube list printed. Check the bottom.
Dernière édition par Ryan le Mar 18 Aoû à 10:21, édité 1 fois | |
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Rémy Dieu
Nombre de messages : 1013 Localisation : Là où l'alcool coule à flot et les femmes sont belles Date d'inscription : 15/08/2005
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Lun 17 Aoû à 19:39 | |
| Quick suggestions: I didn't see much point in the artifact lands, but as there are some affinity/modular cards, why not (not sure Orni is worth it too).. crystal vein can get the axe If you've chromatic star, maybe sphere could be worth it too. I found we might lack some fixing. maybe even something like fellwar stone. I would remove Illusion Donate maybe, other combos such as prot hulk (maybe add a flash ) reveilalrk etc, or channel/fireball are ok, because it's good cards in their own. But donate... Removing some soldier stuff, like the banneret is probably fine, and if you replace by other quality white cards, by exemple decree of justice and exalted angel. Eternal Dragon could be worth it too, especially if at some point you add the ravnica block duals. You could add the new terror, from M10. I don't remember seeing nekrataal, it would fit too. Just be careful not to make black too strong. You should add Pulse, and if you get one vindicate, I found more artifact or enchentment removal was needed. Maybe even desert twister, and the new green 2/2, that does creeping mold. | |
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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Lun 17 Aoû à 20:44 | |
| So I've already performed some changes to the list, as well as come up with something of a "want list"
+ Force of Will + Thirst for Knowledge - Blue Elemental Blast - Red Elemental Blast + Tombstalker
First things first, something for the combo players: I've added a "Joker" card, quite literally with "The Joker" from Marvel's Vs. card game. Here's what it does: it allows the drafter to replace it with a single card from outside the pool of drafted cards during deck construction. In a sense, it is a replacement for the Wishes, most of which have been major Constructed players, without the clunkiness of having to look through the Cube for a particular card every time a Wish is cast.
If Joker turns out to be waaay too powerful (I'm 95% fine with 1st pick always) , we'll replace him with 4 of the judgement wishes (all but death) and you pick something outside the drafted pool that the card says you can search for, but only once and only during deck construction.
Crystal Vein is pretty much a placeholder for either City of Traitors or ideally Mishra's Workshop (ha ha).
Affinity could be removed totally, but I was hoping to sway away from all the decks just being midrange or control and throwing five drops at each other. Maybe adding some esper stuff from Alara block could help (Esper Stormblade seems a worthy addition, but I'm unsure what after that). Other than that, arcbound stinger and Quumulox from Mirrodin could be good. Adding borderposts could help affinity a bit.
Maybe removing Cycling subtheme would open some space for all that.
I've already added Disenchant and Quasali Pridemage, hopefully the addition of Maelstrom Pulse and Vindicate will give us enough enchantment removal but not too much that disenchant/naturalize are always 15th picks.
Anyone who's gotten this far should know that goblins is a solid strategy but one that might go away. Currently there's 21 goblin cards in the pool, including all 4 goblin lords. Somebody should try them out if they seem open. Nobody got a chance to play them in the last draft as I was drafting a sick U/W control deck and nobody else knew that goblins ran deep.
Most of the crazy two card combos are around, so if you see one try to get the other. Here I'll say to Remy: I'm fine with Donate always going 15th pick as Illusions combos with a few other cards as well as the rest of blue is ridiculously strong so some filler isn't minded terribly.
Dernière édition par Ryan le Mar 18 Aoû à 0:42, édité 1 fois | |
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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Lun 17 Aoû à 20:46 | |
| Want List in it's current incarnation:
Commons/Recent Uncommons: Channel the Suns Desperate Ritual Mana Seism Knight of the Holy Nimbus Whipcorder Cavern Harpy Simic Signet Radkos Signet Izzet Signet Gruul Signet Spore Burst Selesnaya Signet Kabuto Moth Samurai of the Pale Curtain Nezumi Graverobber Throat Slitter Snuff Out Goblin Sparksmith
Rare and/or Old Cards: Wheel of Fortune Battlefield Forge Shivan Reef Ravages of War Master of Etherium Reveillark Black Vise Phyrexian Processor Decree of Justice Sarcomancy Hatred Phyrexian Negator Earthcraft Squirrel's Nest Flash Maelstrom Pulse Vindicate Living Death City of Traitors Raven Familiar Nantuko Shade
Dernière édition par Ryan le Lun 24 Aoû à 18:23, édité 2 fois | |
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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Mar 18 Aoû à 10:21 | |
| Lands
*Shard Lands*
Arcane Sanctum Jungle Shrine Savage Lands Seaside Citadel Crumbling Necropolis
*Vivid Lands*
Vivid Crag Vivid Creek Vivid Grove Vivid Marsh Vivid Meadow
*Black*
Cabal Coffers Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
*Blue*
Academy Ruins Cephalid Coliseum
*Green*
Treetop Village
*Red*
Goblin Burrows Barbarian Ring
*Prison*
Strip Mine Wasteland Rishadan Port
*Accel*
Ancient Tomb Crystal Vein*
*5c Fixing*
City of Brass Terramorphic Expanse Grand Coliseum Forbidden Orchard Gemstone Mine
*Manlands/Combat Stuff*
Urza's Factory Mishra's Factory Blinkmoth Nexus Nantuko Monastery
*Painlands*
Llanowar Wastes Adarkar Wastes Brushland Karpulsan Forest Sulfurous Springs Yavimaya Coast Caves of Kolios Underground River
*Artifact Lands*
Tree of Tales Seat of the Synod Vault of Whispers Ancient Den Darksteel Citadel Great Furnace
*Cycling Lands*
Forgotten Cave Lonely Sandbar Secluded Steppe Tranquil Thicket Barren Moor
Artifacts
*Creatures*
Ornithopter Arcbound Worker Arcbound Ravager Lurebound Scarecrow Frogmite Juggernaut Razormane Masticore Triskelion Myr Enforcer Duplicant Platinum Angel Sundering Titan
*Noncreature Artifacts*
Lotus Petal Engineered Explosives Chrome Mox Lotus Bloom Zuran Orb Mana Crypt
Springleaf Drum Mana Vault The Rack Chromatic Star AEther Vial Skullclamp Sensei's Divining Top Chromatic Star Sol Ring
Isochron Scepter Cranial Plating Azorius Signet Boros Signet Dimir Signet Golgari Signet Orzhov Signet Umezawa's Jitte Prismatic Lens Mind Stone
Sword of Fire and Ice Loxodon Warhammer Crucible of Worlds
Nevinyrral's Disk Mindslaver Obelisk of Alara Memory Jar
**Gold**
*G/W*
Qasali Pridemage Armadillo Cloak Loxodon Hierarch Harmonic Sliver
*U/W*
Teferi's Moat Plumeveil
*B/R*
Terminate Murderous Redcap (g) Bituminous Blast
*W/R*
Goblin Legionnaire (g)(s) Lightning Helix Ajani Vengeant
*G/R*
Bloodbraid Elf (e) Manamorphose Hull Breach Burning-Tree Shaman
*W/B*
Ghost Council of Orzhova Tidehollow Sculler Pillory of the Sleepless Gerrard's Verdict
*U/R*
Fire//Ice Invoke the Firemind
*G/B*
Putrefy Pernicious Deed Grave-Shell Scarab
*U/B*
Psychatog Oona, Queen of the Fae
*U/G*
Lorescale Coatl Mystic Snake Simic Sky Swallower Snakeform
White
*Creatures*
Icatian Javelineers (s) Mother of Runes Savannah Lions Goldmeadow Harrier (s) Akraskan Squire (s) Isamaru, Hound of Konda Ramosian Sergeant (r) Elite Vanguard (s)
White Knight Jotun Grunt (s) Knight of Meadowgrain Knight of the White Orchid Soltari Priest True Believer Ballyrush Banneret* (s) Kami of Ancient Law Kataki, War's Wage Ramosian Lieutenant (should be Amrou Scout) (r)
Aven Riftwatcher (r) (s) Mirror Entity (r) (s) (g) Order of the Sacred Torch Preeminent Captain (s) Lin-Sivvi, Defiant Hero (r) Defiant Vanguard (r) Aven Mindcensor
Radiant's Dragoons (s) Magus of the Moat
Battlegrace Angel Cloudgoat Ranger (makes s) Serra Angel
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
*Instant*
Condemn Enlightened Tutor Swords to Plowshares Path to Exile Mana Tithe Disenchant Momentary Blink* Wing Shards
*Sorceries*
Balance Wrath of God Armageddon Spectral Procession
*Enchantments*
Land Tax Honor the Pure Pacifism Glorious Anthem Obvlivion Ring Story Circle Astral Slide Parallax Wave
Blue
*Creatures*
Waterfront Bouncer Merfolk Looter Aquamoeba
Man-o-War Serendib Efreet Trinket Mage Dominating Licid Kira, Great Glass Spinner
Aeon Chronicler Meloku the Coulded Mirror Body Double Morphling Mulldrifter
Keiga, the Tide Star Mahamoti Djinn
*Instants*
Brainstorm Chain of Vapor
Counterspell Mana Leak Snap Remand Brain Freeze
Capsize Frantic Search Circular Logic Hinder Thirst for Knowledge Mana Short Forbid
Cryptic Command Fact or Fiction Gifts Ungiven
Gush Force of Will Evacuation
Opportunity
*Sorceries*
Ponder Sleight of Hand Merchant Scroll Donate Tinker Windfall Deep Analysis Thoughtcast Mind's Desire
*Enchantments*
Threads of Disloyalty Illusions of Grandeur
Black
*Creatures*
Putrid Imp Carnophage Carrion Feeder Disciple of the Vault Order of the Ebon Hand Dauthi Horror Dauthi Slayer (s) Dark Confidant Skittering Skirge
Hypnotic Specter Bone Shredder Stromgald Cabal
Shriekmaw Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni Sengir Nosferatu Puppeteer Clique Thrashing Wumpus
Tombstalker
*Instants*
Slaughter Pact Dark Ritual Demonic Consultation Vampiric Tutor Diabolic Edict Terror Smother Cabal Ritual Massacre Makeshift Mannequin Ad Nauseum
*Sorceries*
Reanimate Duress Raven's Crime Deathmark Demonic Tutor Hymn to Tourach Sign in Blood Night's Whisper Exhume Yawgmoth's Will Infernal Contract Tendrils of Agony Dread Return Patriarch's Bidding Corrupt Sins of the Past
*Enchantments*
Animate Dead Necropotence Recurring Nightmare Night of Souls' Betrayal Yawgmoth's Bargain
Red
*Creatures*
Mogg Fanatic (g) Kird Ape Jackal Pup Goblin Lackey (g) Magus of the Scroll
Stingscourger (g) Mogg War Marshall (g) Goblin Piledriver (g) Atog Ashling the Pilgrim
Squee, Goblin Nabob (g) Goblin Sharpshooter (g) Simian Spirit Guide Goblin Chieftain (g) Goblin Matron (g) Goblin King (g) Goblin Warchief (g) Ghitu Slinger
Avalanche Riders Flametongue Kavu Anger Goblin Ringleader (g)
Siege-Gang Commander (g) Gathan Raiders Arc-Slogger
Shivan Dragon Greater Gargadon
*Instants*
Lightning Bolt Ancient Grudge Magma Jet Incinerate Sudden Shock Fiery Temper Seething Song Violent Eruption Flame Javelin Fireblast
*Sorceries*
Lava Dart Rite of Flame Pyroclasm Empty the Warrens Apocalypse Fireball Starstorm
*Enchantments*
Seal of Fire Lightining Rift Sulfuric Vortex Pandemonium
Green
Llanowar Elves (e) Basking Rootwalla Birds of Paradise Fyndorn Elves (e) Wild Nacatl Spore Frog
Vinelasher Kudzu Werebear Wild Mongrel River Boa Sakura-Tribe Elder Wall of Blossoms Quirion Dryad Kavu Titan Tarmogoyf Wall of Roots
Spike Feeder Yavimaya Elder (e) Eternal Witness Imperious Perfect (e) Great Sable Stag
Blastoderm Phantom Centaur Spike Weaver Ravenous Baloth Brooding Saurian
Genesis Deranged Hermit (e) Arrogant Worm Kodama of the North Tree
Cloudthresher Silvos, Rogue Elemental Protean Hulk
Krosan Tusker Verdant Force
*Instants*
Naturalize Moment's Peace
*Sorceries*
Life from the Loam Channel Call of the Herd Search for Tomorrow Natural Order Overrun Tooth and Nail
*Enchantments*
Rancor Fastbond Survival of the Fittest Oath of Druids Aluren Saproling Burst
Dernière édition par Ryan le Lun 24 Aoû à 18:27, édité 1 fois | |
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gobo Puissant mage
Nombre de messages : 690 Age : 32 Localisation : Si vous voulez voir mes vidéos de basse c'est ici https://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oabdg&view=videos Date d'inscription : 15/01/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Mar 18 Aoû à 11:22 | |
| i have a lot of cards in your list. I take it friday | |
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Ryan Furet
Nombre de messages : 200 Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 11/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Dim 18 Avr à 13:59 | |
| Okay Affinity is being removed. Check this thread for an idea of what the cube contains. Once I get the cube and some free time I'll update the cube and update the list.
How many proxy cards are people comfortable with? We have 11 proxy cards now, and I think 20 would be the extreme.
So with that I'm taking out: 6 Artifact Lands Arcbound Worker Arcbound Ravager Disciple of the Vault Thoughtcast Cranial Plating Frogmite Myr Enforcer Exalted Angel Magus of the Moat ( last two making room for better white creatures)
And adding: Ravages of War (proxy) Grim Tutor (proxy) Time Vault (proxy) Voltaic Key Baneslayer Angel (proxy) Bazaar of Baghdad (proxy) Mishra's Workshop (proxy) Entomb (proxy) Reveillark Phyrexian Processor Platinum Angel Sinkhole(proxy) | |
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Le Maître G B Le Crocodile
Nombre de messages : 450 Localisation : Membre de la dérobade team Date d'inscription : 11/12/2005
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Dim 18 Avr à 20:42 | |
| I'll check a bit in my card and if you agree I can lend 1 fetch of each ( new one) and we might add some "new" cards, like the baloth 6/6 trample which make 4/4....
See ya friday
I'll come around 10pm if my work schedule remains the same, and I'm not convinced that you'll have enough eldrazi packs ( I'll give mine to Ismaïl or somebody who's sure to come early) | |
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Mr.Veresse Puissant mage
Nombre de messages : 910 Date d'inscription : 20/08/2005
| Sujet: Re: Building A Cube Mar 20 Avr à 11:23 | |
| vous avez gagné combien de packs à annecy? sinon gb tu arrives pas à passer le cube à quelqu'un qui vien à l'heure comme sa on peut directe en faire un | |
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gobo Puissant mage
Nombre de messages : 690 Age : 32 Localisation : Si vous voulez voir mes vidéos de basse c'est ici https://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oabdg&view=videos Date d'inscription : 15/01/2008
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